While I'm in semi-rant mode over things that get overlooked
through JKR's obfuscating, and wanting to say things before HPB comes out (most
likely so I can enjoy the sweet taste of foot in my mouth LOL)… here's another
one for your reading pleasure (well, for MY writing pleasure at least, and to
get me to do something semi-constructive instead of speaking in a rather harsh,
annoyed voice about it to my husband).
Let's dissect the Prophecy that so many people seem to
believe means both Harry and Voldemort die… this one has been done before I
think, I just want a pre-HBP record for myself of how I viewed it, I guess.
The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord
approaches . . .
So Harry has some power that Voldemort doesn't
understand. Most likely it's positive
emotional bonds. Everywhere I look
people assume it's Love™ in all its wondrous forms, but I think it's a little
beyond that. Voldemort does not have a
firm concept of positive human interactions.
The idea of people being willing to fight for a person that they don't
fear is quite beyond him. He is a true
psychopathic personality, incapable of grasping other's motivations. Harry is learning, slowly but surely and
with help from some proverbial beating over the head by one lovely redhead
(grin) to realize that other people have different experiences than he does and
that this can be quite useful if he opens himself to their perspective. Such as if he'd asked Ginny about being
possessed. *thwap*
born to those who have thrice defied him,
A few comments here, some of which have been pointed out by
others I'm sure. We know only smidgens about this, though I would think that
James & Lily's death scene can't count as time number 3, if he was born to
thrice defy-ers – wording says they'd have to have done it three times. Something I haven't seen mentioned is that there's a completely
alternate reading available here… to be "born to" someone doesn't
necessarily only involve your parents.
This could be hinting at why the entire Potter clan was wiped out. Maybe James' parents defied Voldemort also,
and Voldemort goes along the "sins of the father" type mentality.
born as the seventh month dies . . .
Not much to interpret there… the death of the seventh month,
by the Muggle Julian calendar we can generally assume is being referred to,
means the end of July, which we know from the first book is when Harry's
birthday falls.
and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal,
I think Dumbledore explained this one pretty well for us –
Voldemort saw the early parallels between his life and Harry's (and
accidentally created several by orphaning the kid), and physically marked him,
as well as psychically and possibly magically, sending power into Harry that he
wouldn’t have otherwise had.
but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not . . .
Ahhh… here's where I go off a bit. To have a power the Dark Lord knows not… again, that power of
Love™ or is it just the power to interact with people as a friend? Hmm… JKR has
stated in an interview that Voldemort has never loved anyone, and that he
couldn't do what he does if he ever had.
So yes, love is clearly a component of this, but I don't think it's
purely one form of love or another, and that it's important that Harry
is learning to appreciate all the very different forms of love – if he hadn't
been raised in such an affection black hole, he wouldn't appreciate the
friendship-love he gets from his best friends, the motherly-love he gets from
Molly, or the romantic-love we can assume he'll get SOMEWHERE before he faces
off in the Final Battle. This
thought-line of course leads into the whole H/G thing, since then the three
distinct forms of love are all coming from one family. Now that I think about it, that's another
power that Voldemort doesn't understand, the power of FAMILY. As a fairly new mother myself, and having
been "coupled" with my husband for over 9 years now, I have a whole
new appreciation for the power of family.
My family of origin is rather non-functional. I interacted with members other than my mother so infrequently
that they hardly had enough impact on me to be actually dysfunctional (though
they certainly tried their hardest there).
My own mother was pushed into getting pregnant before she was really
ready, and so really has never had the emotional base to fall back on within
herself to be the type of mother one would wish for. I didn’t suffer daily like Harry did at the Dursleys, but I have
a glimpse at what he's gone through (including my stepmother actually locking
me in a closet as a small child, but it was only for maybe an hour… it's funny,
I wonder if Harry has a similar preference for small spaces because of the cupboard
under the stairs being his space, where the big bads couldn't beat on
him because they had trouble fitting through the door. I still have a love of nooks myself, though
I've had trouble creating them since high school). OK, sorry major digression there. This is mostly stream-of-consciousness writing as I'm just trying
to get my thoughts out while the baby naps, if there's a point to it after HBP
comes out maybe I'll make all these a little more coherent. Suffice to say, I don't believe the power that
Harry has that Voldemort doesn't is simply "love," that there's a lot
more depth to the whole thing than that, it's just a very necessary portion of
that power.
and either must die at the hand of the other
Well, that bit makes Aibhinn's HtP harder to pull out of the
AU, though not necessarily entirely ;)
What does it mean to die at the hand of another person? Prophecies all over the world and throughout
history are known for their word-choices not meaning exactly what they appear
to mean on the surface. Voldemort
created a literal hand for his henchman Wormtail. One's best friend or mate is often colloquially referred to as
their "right hand/arm"… and a group of people working together
seamlessly is often described as moving as one body. While this may be an actual literal "reach out and strangle
someone" reference, I have my personal doubts as to that.
for neither can live while the other survives . . .
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This one seems to cause the most trouble for people. JKR has said the whole thing is very
carefully worded anytime someone asks if that means that Harry has to die, so
let's look at the important words LIVE and SURVIVE
Courtesy of dictionary.reference.com:
v. lived, liv·ing, lives
v. intr.
- To be alive; exist.
- To continue to be alive: lived
through a bad accident.
- To support oneself; subsist: living
on rice and fish; lives on a small inheritance.
- To reside; dwell: lives
on a farm.
- To conduct one's life in a
particular manner: lived frugally.
- To pursue a positive,
satisfying existence; enjoy life: those who truly live.
- To remain in human memory: an
event that lives on in our minds.
v. sur·vived, sur·viv·ing, sur·vives
v. intr.
- To remain alive or in
existence.
- To carry on despite hardships
or trauma; persevere: families that were surviving in tents after
the flood.
- To remain functional or
usable: I dropped the radio, but it survived.
I find it interesting that there is overlap in the first two
definitions, but then "live" goes on to others, whereas the
definition of "survive" as it applies to living creatures is fairly
narrow. The last three definitions of
"live" are the most important to the prophecy, in my view.
Going by definitions 5 and 6, neither Harry nor Voldemort is
able to live their life in the "particular manner" they would most
prefer, because of the existence of the other.
Nor is either able "to pursue a positive, satisfying existence,
" whatever their individual definitions of "positive" may
be. Harry is stuck at the Dursleys
because of the protection they offer him from Voldemort, instead of staying
with the Weasleys, at Hogwarts, or ANYWHERE else, for the entirety of the
summer holidays. He's also stuck living
a life curtailed for his own safety, beyond what his peers endure, because of
Voldemort. Voldemort, on the other
hand, knows that Harry holds the key to his downfall, and his focus has
to remain on Harry until the final battle, whereas we can be pretty sure he'd
like to have other priorities. Hence,
neither is currently able to "live" in the sense of these
definitions, and I believe this is the key to understanding this part of the
prophecy.
The final definition could be the relevant one, but
it's not as likely. I seriously doubt
that either Harry or Voldemort killing the other would eradicate the memory of
the other being from the wizarding public's memory.
Well, not as clear as I'd like it to be, but the baby's
starting to fuss so I must stop for now.
Comment away, if you feel the need.